Indian Wildlife Club Forum

There is a question in "Any Other" from Mr. Jason from USA.  Mr. Jason, Tigers and Lions are still in India, but they do not occupy the same forest ranges.

The Tiger inhabits well covered grassland forests in the rainy forests. The Lion on the other hand inhabits a small pocket in India in Gir- Gujarath. These are scrub jungles, as the bush country in Africa. So there is no conflict between the two great cats in their natural environment. However talking about conflicts,sometimes by mistake a tiger and a lion have been put into the same moated enclosures and the tiger has always come out the victor.  Some zoos in India have witnessed this. Now for the sports arenas-there are no recorded instances of any tiger -lion confrontations for spectator entertainment. 

Lastly the Tiger and the Lion are both revered equally in Hindhu Mythology as the Steeds of Durga Matha - the Godess.  Does this satisfy your query are do you want to know more. Please feel free to ask.

Actually, I am fascinated to know that nature's two top cats, once lived in the same country.  (As an American I am also impressed with the widlife heritage of India.)   Anways, according to books I have read, these cats once lived even in the same region.  Thus, I have some questions I am hoping can be answered.

Which species lived in India first? Tigers? Or Lions?  Also, does anyone know if there were any conflicts between these two top predators?  Did one moving into the territory of India cause problems for the other species?  Did past empires of various Indian cultures have them fight each other like in Roman pit fights?  Which cat is viewed as the more dominant of the two in your culture? Or as equals?  Did these species simply avoid each other? If they did have conflicts naturally or man made, who was more often the victor? Has it been so long since the two once lived in the same natural areas that widlife officials won't put them in the same parks for fear of them conflicting violently?

I hope someone knows the answers to these questions.  I also, sincerely, hope that your nation as well as mine(USA) work to save the last remaining wildlife areas all around the globe. I hope they both can be saved. I fear after your cats are poached, they will come after our big cat, the Cougar (bigger than leopards, but much smaller than tigers and Lions).  Our bears are already being poached in California for the markets of East Asian countries.

If anyone has questions about american animals I will do my best to answer them. Thank you, Jason

IN THE TROPIC LEVEL THE CREATURES HAVING NO PREDATORS ARE VULTURES, EAGLES, TIGERS, LIONS ETC. BUT IN RECENT DAYS A SEPERATE POWERFUL NEW ORDER OF PREDATORS (CRUELVORES) EVOLVED, NO NEED TO THINK, YES IT IS NON OTHER THAN WE, HUMANS.

DUE TO IRREGULAR DUTIES AND SHAMEFULL ACTIVITIES OF MANY WILD LIFE OFFICIALS THE POPULATION OF TIGERS, LEPOARDS AND OTHER ANIMALS HAVE GONE INTO TERRIBLE EXTINCTION IN RECENT YEARS. UNLESS GOVERNMENT IISSUES SEVERE POSES ON POACHERS AND UGLY OFFICIALS, INDIA IS GOING TO LOSE ITS VALUBLE WEALTH WHICH CAN NOT BE RETURNED AGAIN BY NONE OF US.

shaldavya.K (India)

I appreciate the view of Bahar Dutt on the need for support for Community reserves. Moreover, those communities need more appreciation and acknowledgement from the governmental and scientific community.

Often the community forests such as sacred groves are kept for religious values and the rules and regulations governing them might widely vary from community to community. Only a local level management approach involving informed participants mainly from the specific community/communities involved in the conservation only can promot the conservation of community reserves.

Probably the Kalpavriksh's data (mentioned by Bahar Dutt) on various community reserves should be studied thoroughly for making some umbrella rule that should serve only as some sort of a broad guidelines for the management of these reserves at National level.

I read the article by Bahar Dutt at

http://www.indianwildlifeclub.com/AboutUs/OurConcerns/Community-Reserves.aspx

I completely agree with her views on community reserves. Until and unless the government also helps and encourages these local tribes and residents, they will find it difficult in the long-run to protect valuable wildlife and natural resources, given illegal use of these resources.

These local residents must feel that their efforts are not going wasted because then only many more people will want to work for such causes without thinking about the adverse repercussions of legal loopholes on the environment.

I travelled from Delhi to Jhunjhunu(Rajasthan) by road recently. It felt nice to be woken up in the morning by the chirpy sparrows.

I suddenly realised how much I miss them here in Gurgaon. My friends from Delhi tell me sparrows are not seen anymore there as well.

The number of rotting carcasses of dogs and even a camel on the roads made me wonder what happened to our vultures, the scavenger birds provided by nature. Is the loss of biodiversity on a fast track now?

In January 2005, the Delhi Police seized a huge contraband of animal skins which included 60kg of tiger and leopard paws, 3 kg of claws and around 40 bones besides the skins.

Also, in January the forest department has confirmed that Sariska in Rajasthan does not have any tigers any more.

Ranthambhore, our showcase for tigers is suffering a crisis of management because of excessive tourist influx- and the lack of basic facilities to the villagers displaced from the forest.

Can we do something, anything? We are a group of concerned individuals who are part of IndianWildlifeclub.com. We all want to do something. Can we make a difference?

Speaking out, we can generate ideas for helping, for controlling poaching.